"POP OUT THE PLAYER"
Why not pop out the player? A small option maybe like "pop me out" and then instantly 8tracks transforms into the coolest little internet radio gadget on the planet :)
We had this functionality early on but then decided to integrate the player in the page more fully. Agree this could be a good idea, perhaps even as a browser plug-in. We’ll consider this.
I agree, It would be great to have it as a separate window/app, so forward and pause buttons on my keyboard/mac remote control playback. I also would enjoy a sleek/more congruent theme that doesn't clash with my generic browser theme.
How about an app for mac and windows?
I love the full page player but if I use this as an alternative to my desktop iTunes I would really love a minimized popout player as an option! this service is awesome btw, thanks so much :)
Anthony Reyes commented
i like it as its now, if youre gonna do it make it optional
Why is this so complicated? Just put a bookmarklet in your bookmark toolbar that contains:
If 8tracks wants to they could put it on a onclick event with one of those nifty pop-out icons.
(the code has been tested in firefox only, sorry.)
Alternative: Although I don't use IE9 as my main browser, a good use for it can be to drag 8tracks to the Windows 7 taskbar and it forms into an app, much like a pop-up window.
In Google Chrome, you can open any link in an "incognito" window that doesn't include the normal menu bars etc. across the top. I'm fairly certain something similar exists in FF and IE. Certainly a button that activated this feature for the current tab (the one containing the button as it would be on the 8tracks page) would be a quick little bit of HTML and button design...
just my $0.02
Naoise Golden Santos commented
no thank you. a single windows takes as much space as a tab or as a minimized window than a 'cool little widget'
Not sure as the beauty of the site is that no downloading is required
i love the site the way it is now! i think you should stick with it, it's clean, simple, and works great.
also, browser plug-ins. really? that seems so like 5 years ago.. i'd much rather see work towards an updated site taking advantage of HTML5 and integrating everything into one simple page, and with player always visible.
If you use the google chrome plug-in isn't that considered a pop out player plugin? I thought that idea was pretty cool, if we could get that for firefox that would be excellent
Yeah, not sure about the solution, but would like to have something small and external to my main browser window for controlling. Great service otherwise though.
I'm glad i could generate some heat!
@paperknives -- Thanks for the rant! I love 'em. On your 4 points:
1. I kind of like the Audioscrobbler just so I can check out my personal charts of what I've been listening to in the months and years past. (I'm a geek : ) ) Also makes my "personal radio" and "neighbour radio" on Last.fm more interesting.
2. Our iPhone app is in development as I write. I hope we can get it off to the app store before year-end. There's a beta version being tested (and happy to set you up if you send me your UDID at dp at 8tracks dot com).
3. Good suggestions for the standalone player client. In addition to a "mini" view and the ability to see past mixes you've listened to, are the other key things you'd like to see? There are 2 non-8tracks developers who are going to be working on this concepts early next year and I'll happily send along your suggestions. (We'll do our own app eventually too, of course.)
4. Yup, we will eventually do a full FB app too so you can add as a distinct tab. And thanks re the mix art; I do think it's a nice visual and makes mix-making and -listening all the more enjoyable (and memorable).
Appreciate your taking the time to give us all this feedback!
@8tracks Yep, that's the one (though, I always disable the Scrobbler, I don't see a whole lot of point with regards to syncing my iTunes to another program, especially an internet radio app)
But yeah, I figured you guys would end up with an iPhone app, or something downloadable, or something else creative and in that vein - I agree with you that it's just okay, it could be a lot better... I seem to remember an earlier build of the app letting you minimize it? Not to your toolbar, but literally the size of the app (like you can with iTunes, a mini player vs the full screen mode)
On the positive side, I do like that it's separate from my browser, plays continuously without need for interaction, remembers/takes note of the type of music I enjoy, etc. An 8tracks version of this would be fantastic! I'm sure when you get to this, you guys will make it all your own.
In addition to an app, I think it'd be cool if 8tracks could be a page we could add in Facebook (like "Boxes", another tab at the top) that looks just like our personal mix pages, definitely keep the album cover look you guys have going! The curiosity of the images representing the mix is a unique 8track thing I really enjoy, sometimes I end up listening to mixes soley based on the image they picked for it, have to admit. All my friends would have to do is check my Facebook tab for any new mixes with an integration like that (which I think I read elsewhere on here you guys have planned) rather than like, having to post the new manually as status updates (which isn't a big deal, mind you)
Sorry for the rant, can't wait to see what you all have planned for 2010! :)
Hi @paperknives: Do you mean the player that comes with the Audioscrobbling app?: http://screencast.com/t/MTI5ZDM5ZDA
We are planning to do something like this eventually. We've not had a lot of demand for it from users, but I think it'd be helpful for encouraging use without a browser.
I think the Last.fm player is okay (and I'm a big fan and nearly took a job there a few years back after leaving Live365) but could be a lot better. Watch for something compelling on this front in 2010 (esp once we're able to hire our first employee).
I agree with Elliot, 8tracks should take a major look at the Last.fm downloadable player (plays tracks without needing a browser open) whic installs a widget at the top of your OSX navigator/finder - it is invaluable!! I literally use it everyday, it would be great for people to have something like this to play 8tracks, especially to play through an entire user's mix collection. The Last.fm player also pops a little window after every song that tells you the name of the track, album, year...
If you guys could make something like this, 8tracks would blow up 100,000 fold! The setup now is a little inconvenient.
Hi Elliot, that's a good point. You can see the track playing as long as you have your *browser* open (since we put the track in the browser tab, e.g. http://screencast.com/t/NTc3MmJiNDMt). But you don't see the track playing if you're using Word or Excel (say).
On the latter, I assume you mean a widget on the OSX Dashboard? That's actually a great idea, as we've "outward facing" widgets (for FB, blogs, etc) but not a widget in this sense. I didn't realize this could be done with Safari.
Elliott Regan commented
I’d like to see this feature. Although I do like the integrated player, a small pop-out window would be nice for when you don’t feel like having the entire page open. That way you would be able to have the window open to see the track title (as opposed to having it minimized) without it getting too much in the way.
Another advantage to this would be Safari’s ability to make a widget out of a portion of a webpage. I envision having the pop-out player a widget on my dashboard, and using my browser to select the playlist.